by Dolores Cannon
Spirit: To give an example of how damaged these souls are that come to the “hospital” [in the spirit world], in your [physical] plane there was one called Adolf Hitler. He was not sent to the hospital because his soul was not that damaged. He was sent to the learning portion of the plane, the retreat. He needed a quiet time of reflection because he had become- well, another metaphor- his nerves had become jangled.
The problem in that lifetime was that he was an extremely creative person. He would have been a creative genius but he had no outlets for it because the Depression culture he was raised in did not allow for creative outlets. There was an inordinate amount of energy behind this creativeness, as there always is in these geniuses. It had to have another outlet somewhere and it warped his outlook on life and hence his thoughts, and it developed into the final outcome. That which happened reflected mainly on his father‘s karma rather than his.
Dolores: (This was a surprise.) I wouldn’t think of it that way.
S: Because the root of the problem started when his father refused to let him study creative things.
D: But still, Hitler was the one who did those horrible things.
S: It’s hard to explain. (She paused, trying to think how to word it.) He started out with good intentions, wanting to be an artist or an architect or what have you. But he was not allowed to develop in that direction, and the energy there was warped. His main mistake was not being able to handle that energy in a constructive form, in another form besides creativeness. So he turned it to destructiveness. That is the main thing that he’s had to work out.
D: It seems as if he could have found an outlet for it in a more creative form, even though his father wouldn’t allow him to do that.
S: Yes, he could have become an engineer, for example.
D: Isn’t that kind of passing the buck, to blame his father?
S: No. Hitler has to share his part of the blame, too. But it cannot be set solely upon him because the problem started with the narrow attitudes his father had developed. His father could have developed broader attitudes.
D: But still it seems as if he didn’t have to become so fanatical in his actions. You know what happened there.
S: That was caused by the intensity of the creative energies. Had he been able to develop into an artist instead, he would have been a crazy artist and fanatical about that. But it would have been accepted as being Bohemian.
D: At least he wouldn’t have harmed anyone.
S: True, except maybe himself.
D: But as it was, it snowballed to where he affected millions and millions of people. I would have thought he would have ended up in the "hospital".
S: He wasn’t that damaged. Twisted, yes; damaged, no. Mainly what he needed was quiet and time to straighten things out. Those souls who are in the hospital have been so damaged by having gone through the same portion of karma over and over and over that they feel as if they’re stuck in that karma.
Whereas, in the case of Adolph Hitler, this was the first time this had happened to him. In his former lifetimes he also had a strong creative impulse and he was in situations where he could let it develop. But in this lifetime it was blocked. The lesson he had to learn was how to handle that energy when he could not have things the way he wanted it- to handle it in any way that would fit in with the pattern that he had to live in. And he did not handle that aspect well. That was the main part of his karma that he is going to have to rework in a future lifetime-being able to handle undesirable situations.
D: Well, didn’t he create more karma for himself by what he did and all the people’s lives he affected?
S: He created more karma for himself, true. At this point it’s difficult to say how much since this happened so recently.
D: You mean it’s not all analyzed yet?
S: Yes. It will take several lifetimes, several incarnations to be able to see just how it affected the balance of things and how much more he has to work out.
D: I was thinking of all the millions of people that were killed as a direct result of his life.
S: That is true, he sent the orders for them to be killed but he was partially influenced by people around him. And he did not derive the same amount of direct physical pleasure from it that the actual executioners did. What I am saying is that he gave the orders for these people to be killed and that does reflect on his karma, but the men who received these orders to build the gas chambers and use them, the guards and others, took direct physical pleasure in seeing these people die.
D: Yes, he didn’t really do the actual killing, but he did nothing to stop it.
S: He merely made it allowable for these people to be killed. That’s why it reflects on his karma, that he allowed it to happen. He encouraged them to do it but he kept his own hands clean, so to speak, by not doing it directly himself. It reflects badly on his karma that he created a political system that would allow this. Many of the men in the system were doing this because they wanted to. They were misfits in normal societies and they took direct physical pleasure in committing these atrocities.
D: But he also had the fanatical obsession with obliterating a race. He began the extermination of the Jews, a whole race of people with his fanaticism and persecution.
S: Yes. He was against any race that was not pure German; “Aryan” as he called it. He wanted his beloved Deutschland to be in the same sort of situation that the United States had been in 100 or 150 years earlier, with space to grow and become a major power, and have space for the people to multiply. He wanted to have a huge nation with many Germans and be able to use their culture to influence the whole world, the way the Americans had. And he wanted to obliterate any race of people that stood in the way of this goal. This was part of the twisting process of that creative impulse, because clearly it was impossible to do this without harming many people. Had he been able to become a creative genius he could have contributed to that mighty culture of Deutschland that he loved so well.
D: I was thinking that he had such a prejudice that that would have a karmic reaction too.
S: That was just part of his soul being twisted. He was able to work out that prejudice through contemplation and meeting with the spiritual masters.
D: He is definitely one example that is very difficult to understand.
S: Yes, it is a very complex situation.
Source: Dolores Cannon: Between Death and Life, Conversations with a Spirit
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